Anonymous asked: $100 is a lot of money for a single page.
how much is a loaf of bread? hm? $3? $5?
At my local grocery store, bread is about $4.50 for a decent size italian loaf. If I make $7.25 and hour, that means I’d have to work 37 and a half minutes for a Loaf of bread.
but hey, that’s not so bad right? Work two hours and you’ll have a sandwich, eh?
Oh hey, turns out I also need toilet paper, rice, chicken, some veggies, a can of soup, and some cereal. (to name a few basic groceries one might need on a budget) we’ll round those things down to $25 just to make the math easier.
at $7.25 an hour I’ll have to work about 3 and a half hours for basic groceries.
That doesn’t include bills or gas or all the other groceries I need, That’s ONE quick trip to the store and I already have to work half a day just for that.
You don’t understand Anon, my pages could take HOURS if not DAYS. Between the sketching, inking, colouring, lettering, and finishing it’s taken at least a full two day’s work if not longer for each page.
I have a job that pays me beans, I cannot afford to post more pages a week without compensation. I literally cannot afford to do that. Not to mention the idea that art is only worth minimum wage cheapens the amount of work and effort that goes into producing it. I should be making WELL ABOVE minimum wage for my art via page count and commissions but it’s this damn “deviant art” mindset that makes people feel like they’re being swindled for paying a livable wage to artists. It’s rude and childish and I ask that you please stop considering artists as less worthy of affording a normal life.
You can either pay me what I ask for what you want or stop complaining about what I already give you for free.
I cannot fucking stand people who tell illustrators that something they produce is too expensive.
Yall motherfuckers want cheap? Go get some paper, get a fucking pencil and then draw it your motherfucking selves because nobody freelancing on the internet who hasn’t even half made it in the illustration world is charging you ANYTHING close to industry pricing even when some of us are as good if not better. Why? Because of people like Anon. Your name must be out there and known to charge anything close to what your time and skill is worth. Yet still? You are paying for my effort, my time, my blood, sweat and tears and a lifetime of learning my trade.
A cheap page for yo ass is a piece of paper I haven’t touched yet.
(As a freelancer I cannot staaaaaaaaaaaaaand people who pull this dogshit.)
$100 is pretty cheap for a page.
Basic math, for Anon up there: Break that $100 down into an hourly rate. Factor in materials. Factor in skill and schooling and experience. Bear in mind that a page rate *at all* means there’s a good chance it’s work-for-hire, which means that $100 a page might be all the artist gets, ever.
And then, when you’ve done that math, think about what that means in terms of how few comics artists make a living hourly wage.
Want a pro artist, anon? Pay them like a fucking pro.
I’d like to add the a professional of any stripe has the duty to themselves, and the right to charge a rate based on his skill level and the work he or she puts in.
“ With criticism it’s never just between the critic and the artist, or between the critic and the curator—it’s between the living and the dead. This sort of criticism is as close to human nature as you can get. Anyone living, especially your peers, is a threat. You’re judging them, they’re judging you. That can be a good thing sometimes. Jealously, rancor, competition, those can be good things in art. But it mostly puts you in a dangerous and disadvantageous position, and one that just takes away from you so much. It’s possible to do your best work at your highest level without competing. ”
Also, please reblog that post, we need as many people to know about PACT as possible. Share it far and wide within this community, I know some people just haven’t heard yet. The more it spreads, the higher the chance we can make this deadline. Thanks a bunch.
Anybody reading this who is working as an illustrator currently or intends to shortly- I would strongly urge you to read about this endeavor called PACT.
From the link:
THE BIG IDEA
The PACT web tool is not a portfolio site, but rather will be geared towards improving the standards for artists within the fantasy, science fiction, book publishing and comic book industries.
This tool for us illustrators will have tons of resources, creative and legal, including sample contracts specifically geared for our industry, among other indispensable items. The whole point is to improve the standards for us in all ways- better rates of pay, getting pay in on time, less unpaid revisions, etc. Right now companies have little accountability. This system being put in place would make them accountable to being late to pay, paying poorly, and generally not being someone you would want to work for.
However, there is only 15 days left for this indiegogo drive. And if we as a community do not make the goal at the end of just a little over 2 weeks from today, this project isn’t going to happen. It’s gonna flop. The end.
I REALLY want it to happen. A donation of $29 bucks nets you 2 YEARS of the service once it goes live, which is a steal considering a year will be $29 and its literally just the cost of a single night out at dinner, if that.
Skip a couple coffees, please please please donate to this project. This isn’t like donating to some random charity. Your contribution to this may literally be what decides whether or not it will happen. The guys behind this are working their asses off for our community. This is a community-driven project and it’s for each and every one of us.
If you consider yourself a serious part of this industry, this is how you can prove it. Thanks everyone. And sorry for the rant.
Please reblog this, we all know reblogs are exponential.